Samsoving og krybbedød

[Anonym bruker]

Leser litt forskjellig, hva er faktisk anbefalt? Er det trygt å samsove med 1 mnd baby? 

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[Anonym bruker]

Så lenge mor og far ikke røyker, snuser eller har inntatt alkohol eller andre rusmidler, det ikke er for varmt på rommet (anbefalt temp er 16-18 grader) og babyen har egen dyne så er det ingen grunn til å ikke samsove. 

Jeg fikk beskjed om å samsove på sykehuset når babyen min var 7 timer gammel;)

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[Anonym bruker]

Hadde forholdt meg til rådene til LUB.

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[Pobie]

Samsoving er den største risikofaktoren for krybbedød og det er ikke trygt å sove med et barn under to år i samme seng som en voksen. 

Info kopiert fra fb-gruppe for trygg søvn:

Bed-sharing is the single greatest risk factor for sleep-related infant deaths.

https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/pages/Bed-Sharing-Remains-Greatest-Risk-Factor-for-Sleep-Related-Infant-Deaths.aspx

More than 69% of all sleep-related infant deaths are associated with bed-sharing.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/2/e406

The most conservative estimate shows that the risk of suffocation is 20X higher when infants sleep in adult beds instead of cribs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14523181/

About 90% of bed sharing SIDS deaths would not occur in the absence of bed sharing.

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=23793691

Also, McKenna really isn't in a position to be making claims like he is. His research on "safe" bed sharing is NOWHERE near as thorough as the research showing bed sharing is dangerous.

Even absent all other risk factors and done "safely," bed-sharing nearly TRIPLES the risk of SIDS, plus adds new risks for other types of sleep-related infant death, including suffocation, strangulation, etc. This study used data from 1472 SIDS cases, 4679 controls, 19 studies in U.K., Europe and Australasia
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/5/e002299.long (this study specifically separates bed sharing from couch sharing and other places, all bed sharing deaths were *in* the adult bed)

McKenna studied 5 mother/infant pairs for 1 night, then 3 pairs for 3 nights, and 50 pairs (some bedsharing at least 5 days per week, others no more than 2 days per week) over 3 years (see more here https://cosleeping.nd.edu/assets/25451/experimental_studies_of_infant_parent_co_sleeping.pdf)

Do you really think these two can be considered equal representations of the truth, and the risks?

 Not bedsharing doesn't discourage breastfeeding

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/advising-moms-not-bed-share-infants-does-not-discourage-breastfeeding

On Japan:

"Japan’s SUDI rate is much higher and comparable with those in Australia, Canada, Germany and England and Wales. Unusual coding schemes such as Japan’s use of R96 can have important implications beyond national boundaries. For instance, bed-sharing has been shown in many epidemiological studies to increase the risk of SIDS. Japan has been used as an exemplar of a culture in which bed-sharing is the norm, but SIDS rates are low, and many have used this as evidence that bed-sharing is a safe practice. It is likely, however, that Japan’s SIDS rates are so low because most of these deaths are coded as R96 rather than R95."

http://adc.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=26163119

 

[Pobie]

4 minutter siden, Anonym bruker skrev:

Hadde forholdt meg til rådene til LUB.

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LUB sin side om samsoving linker til en studie som konkluderer med at samsoving øker risikoen for krybbedød, så de kan du ikke stole på nei.

Helse Norge anbefaler mot å samsove pga faren for krybbedød.

[Anonym bruker]

Samsoving er trygt og godt for barnet, og godt anbefalt ❤️

Risikofaktorene er røyking, rusmidler og høy varme på soverommet. Uten disse faktorene, er man ganske safe 😉

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[Anonym bruker]

8 minutter siden, Pobie skrev:

Samsoving er den største risikofaktoren for krybbedød og det er ikke trygt å sove med et barn under to år i samme seng som en voksen. 

Info kopiert fra fb-gruppe for trygg søvn:

Bed-sharing is the single greatest risk factor for sleep-related infant deaths.

https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/pages/Bed-Sharing-Remains-Greatest-Risk-Factor-for-Sleep-Related-Infant-Deaths.aspx

More than 69% of all sleep-related infant deaths are associated with bed-sharing.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/2/e406

The most conservative estimate shows that the risk of suffocation is 20X higher when infants sleep in adult beds instead of cribs.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14523181/

About 90% of bed sharing SIDS deaths would not occur in the absence of bed sharing.

http://bmjopen.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=23793691

Also, McKenna really isn't in a position to be making claims like he is. His research on "safe" bed sharing is NOWHERE near as thorough as the research showing bed sharing is dangerous.

Even absent all other risk factors and done "safely," bed-sharing nearly TRIPLES the risk of SIDS, plus adds new risks for other types of sleep-related infant death, including suffocation, strangulation, etc. This study used data from 1472 SIDS cases, 4679 controls, 19 studies in U.K., Europe and Australasia
http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/3/5/e002299.long (this study specifically separates bed sharing from couch sharing and other places, all bed sharing deaths were *in* the adult bed)

McKenna studied 5 mother/infant pairs for 1 night, then 3 pairs for 3 nights, and 50 pairs (some bedsharing at least 5 days per week, others no more than 2 days per week) over 3 years (see more here https://cosleeping.nd.edu/assets/25451/experimental_studies_of_infant_parent_co_sleeping.pdf)

Do you really think these two can be considered equal representations of the truth, and the risks?

 Not bedsharing doesn't discourage breastfeeding

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/advising-moms-not-bed-share-infants-does-not-discourage-breastfeeding

On Japan:

"Japan’s SUDI rate is much higher and comparable with those in Australia, Canada, Germany and England and Wales. Unusual coding schemes such as Japan’s use of R96 can have important implications beyond national boundaries. For instance, bed-sharing has been shown in many epidemiological studies to increase the risk of SIDS. Japan has been used as an exemplar of a culture in which bed-sharing is the norm, but SIDS rates are low, and many have used this as evidence that bed-sharing is a safe practice. It is likely, however, that Japan’s SIDS rates are so low because most of these deaths are coded as R96 rather than R95."

http://adc.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=26163119

 

For noe tull. Samsoving er den største risikoen for krybbedød? 

Den største risikoen kommer med røyking og rusmidler. 

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[Anonym bruker]

Jeg samsov med babyen på barsel men var livredd for å havne over han så jeg sov knapt, men senga der er jo ikke dobbel. Vi fant ut at det var best å ikke samsove hjemme, samboer sover enormt tungt og flytter mye på seg i søvne, kan plutselig ligge delvis oppå meg. Men babyen lå i en sprinkelseng med samme høyde som oss på bunnen og helt inntil min side. 

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[Anonym bruker]

https://ammehjelpen.no/artikkel/127/Samsoving

 

 

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[Anonym bruker]

Samsov i flere år❤️ Kun positive erfaringer med det 😊😊

(og nei, barnet har ikke endt opp med å bli en raring som henger i skjørtene til mor og som ikke våger å overnatte borte) 

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[Anonym bruker]

barnet har det mye bedre i egen seng, og både barn og foreldre sover bedre, så tar først og fremst hensyn til det først

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[Anonym bruker]

I Tyskland fraråder barnelegene på sykehuset de nybakte mødrene fra å samsove pga faren for krybbedød. Det aller tryggeste er egen seng med fast madrass og sovepose. Ingen pute, kosebamser, suttefiller, babynest, sengekantbeskytter eller annet dill.

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