50 uavklarte spørsmål om vaksiner

[mamma-x-3]

http://inner5pac3.blogspot.com/2009/09/50-reasons-to-protect-infants-from.html

[mamma-x-3]

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1. There is no scientific study to determine whether vaccines have really prevented diseases. Rather disease graphs show vaccines have been introduced at the fag end of epidemics when the disease was already in its last stages. In case of Small Pox the vaccine actually caused a great spurt in the incidence of disease before public outcry led to its withdrawal.

 

2. There are no long-term studies on vaccine safety. Very short-term tests are carried out where the vaccinated subjects are checked against another group who are given another vaccine. Technically the tests should be carried out against a non-vaccinated group. No one really knows what protocols are followed at such industry-sponsored trials.

 

3. There has never been any official attempt to compare a vaccinated population against a non vaccinated population to know what vaccines are doing to the children and the society. Independent private studies (Dutch & German) have revealed that vaccinated children suffer much more than their un-vaccinated counterparts.

 

4. The child receives not one but many vaccines. There are no tests to determine the effects of multiple vaccines.

 

5. There is no scientific basis for vaccinating infants. As per senior doctors quoted by the Times of India, "Children suffer from less that 2% of vaccine preventable illnesses but 98% of the vaccines are targeted towards them." The vaccine pioneers who have recommended abundant caution before vaccinating the population have never advocated mass vaccinations.

 

6. Children are vaccinated simply because parents can be frightened to forcefully vaccinate their children. Vaccinating infants is the most profitable business both for the manufacturers as well as the doctors.

 

7. Infants, who are advised ONLY mothers milk till the age of six months and beyond because their fragile system will not tolerate anything else are given 30 extremely toxic vaccine shots, including booster doses, an act that defies both logic and science.

 

8. The Government of India has come out with a quarter page advertisement in The Hindu warning parents not to vaccinate beyond the Government approved vaccines. Parents have been advised against vaccinating in private clinics and hospitals.

 

9. The Orissa Chapter of the Indian Association of Pediatricians has admitted in a letter to the CM, Orissa, that private clinics and hospitals are ill equipped to store vaccines and warned parents not to vaccinate upon the advise of private practitioners and hospitals.

 

10. The vaccine ingredients are extremely toxic in nature.

 

11. Vaccines contain heavy metals, cancer causing substances, toxic chemicals, live and genetically modified viruses, contaminated serum containing animal viruses and foreign genetic material, extremely toxic de-contaminants and adjuvants, untested antibiotics, none of which can be injected without causing any harm.

 

12. The mercury, aluminum and live viruses in vaccines may be behind the huge epidemic of autism (1 in 10 worldwide as per doctors in the USA, 1 in 37 as per a private study by doctors in New Delhi), a fact that (vaccines cause autism) has been admitted by the US Vaccine Court.

 

13. The CDC of USA, the vaccine watchdog, has publicly admitted that its much-publicized 2003 study denying any link between vaccines and autism, is flawed. The Chief of CDC Dr Gerberding has confessed to the media (CNN) that vaccines can cause "autism like symptoms". The Autism epidemic is found only in those countries that have allowed mass vaccinations.

 

14. In the year 1999, the US Government instructed vaccine manufacturers to remove mercury from vaccines "with immediate effect". But mercury still remains a part of many vaccines. The vaccines with mercury were never recalled and were given to children up to the year 2006. "Mercury free" vaccines contain 0.05mcg of mercury, enough to permanently damage a infant. As per an American Academy of Pediatricians study: "Mercury in all of its forms is toxic to the fetus and children and efforts should be made to reduce exposure to the extent possible to pregnant women and children as well as the general population."

 

15. IN INDIA NO ATTEMPT HAS BEEN MADE TO ENSURE THAT MERCURY AND OTHER HEAVY METALS ARE REMOVED FROM VACCINES SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE VACCINES COSTLIER. Når det gjelder kvikksølv har vi våknet her i landet og fjernet dette fra de fleste vaksiner. Dessverre gjelder dette ikke for verden sett under ett...

 

16. In a reply to then President Sri Abdul Kalam, the Health Ministry informed, "mercury is required to make the vaccines safe". To the author's query that "what are these vaccines that it requires the second most dangerous neurotoxin, mercury, to make them safe?", there was no reply.

 

17. Mercury used in vaccines is second in toxicity only to the radioactive substance, Uranium. It is a neurotoxin that can damage the entire nervous system of the infant in no time.

 

18. Mercury accumulates in fat. The brain being made mostly of fat cells, most of the mercury accumulates there giving rise to the peculiar symptoms of the autistic children.

 

19. The mercury used in vaccines is ethyl mercury. According to Indian doctors this is an industrial toxin and is 1000 times more toxic than the usual methyl mercury.

 

20. The aluminum present in vaccines makes the mercury, in any form, 100 times more toxic.

 

21. As per an independent study aluminum and formaldehyde present in vaccines can increase the toxicity of mercury, in any form, by 1000 times.

 

22. As per a Tehelka article on Autism, if one considers the WHO limit for mercury in water, they are receiving 50,000 times the limit. The limits set, incidentally, are for adults and not infants.

 

23. Autism in India has emerged as the most rapidly growing epidemic amongst children. As per a private study done by doctors in New Delhi, from 1 in 500 it has steadily climbed to 1 in 37 today. As per Indian doctors, "You can go to any class of any school today and find an autistic child."

 

24. Autism is a permanent disability that affects the child physically, mentally and emotionally. It makes the child loose social contact. It impedes both the physical and mental growth of the child. It destroys the brain causing severe memory and attention problems.The majority of symptoms displayed by autistic children match symptoms of heavy metal poisoning.

 

25. According to vaccine researcher Dr Harris Coulter, vaccines cause children to become pervert and criminal. Majority of the school shootings by the children in the USA have been committed by autistic children. Vaccines can cause more harm that even the medical community privately acknowledges.

 

26. Autistic children also suffer from severe bowel disorders. As per Dr Andrew Wakefield, this is due to the vaccine strain live measles virus in the MMR vaccine. Nearly all children become fully autistic after the MMR shot. As per a recent study the MMR vaccine has an adverse effect on the vital mucosal immune system. The very basis of trying to prevent childhood Mumps and Measles has been questioned in this study.

 

27. The DPT also causes children to regress giving rise to fears that multiple live virus vaccines are an important cause behind autism. If three live viruses can cause so much harm we can well imagine what today’s five and seven viruses vaccines will do to children.

 

28. Before the autism epidemic, it was already well known that vaccines have caused the cancer epidemic in today’s society. Both the Small Pox and the Oral Polio Vaccine are made from monkey serum. This serum has helped many cancer causing monkey viruses, 60 found so far (SV 1 to SV60), to enter the human blood stream. As per recent revelations these viruses continue to be in the vaccines.

 

29. It is also known that it is the use of green monkey serum in vaccines that has led to the transfer of the Simian Immune deficiency Virus (SIV) from monkeys into humans. The SIV and the HIV that causes AIDS are very similar.

 

30. Not only AIDS, a blood cancer in infants (Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia) that is affecting children in thousands may also be primarily due to the extremely toxic nature of vaccine ingredients injected directly into the blood stream.

 

31. Infantile jaundice and also infantile diabetes is also scientifically connected to the toxic vaccines.

 

32. The live polio viruses used in the Oral Polio Vaccine has caused Vaccine Attributed Paralytic Polio in more than 1,25,000 children (up to the year 2006) as per doctors of the Indian Medical Association and the Jana Swasthya Abhiyan. The OPV has also let loose a new strain of polio in both India and Africa. The OPV is banned in the USA & European countries.

 

33. Vaccines contain serum from not only chimpanzees and monkeys but also from cows, pigs, chickens, eggs, horses, and even human serum and tissues extracted from aborted fetuses.

 

34. Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines.

 

35. Many doctors argue that diseases during childhood are due to the body exercising its immune system. Suppressing these diseases causes the immune system to remain undeveloped causing the various autoimmune disorders like diabetes and arthritis that have become epidemics today.

 

36. Vaccines suppress the natural immunity and the body does not have natural antibodies anymore. The mothers milk therefore does not contain natural antibodies and can no longer protect the child against illnesses.

 

37. By stimulating humoral (blood related) immunity alone vaccines have caused an imbalance in the whole immune set up leading to an alarming increase in auto immune disorders. This is acknowledged by the immunologists themselves.

 

38. In the USA vaccine adverse effects are recorded and the Government offers compensation of millions of dollars to victims (the most recent case in its Vaccine Court may have received upto $200 million in damages). The Indian Government simply refuses to acknowledge that vaccines can cause deaths and permanent disability.

 

39. It has been scientifically proven that vaccines cannot prevent disease. Vaccines try to create humoral (blood related immunity) whereas it has been found that immunity is developed at various levels, humoral as well as cellular. We still do not know enough about the human immune system and therefore should not interfere with it.

 

40. In the USA parents are informed about vaccine after effects and their consent has to be taken before vaccinating their children. In India the Government assures the population through massive advertising campaigns that vaccines are extremely safe. Parents refusing to vaccinate are threatened by the administration.

 

41. THERE IS NO SYSTEM OF TREATMENT TO TREAT A VACCINE DAMAGED CHILD. The parents have to run from one hospital to another. The Government turns a blind eye and refuses to even acknowledge the vaccine connection. Attempts by private practitioners worldwide to treat vaccine damaged children by flushing out heavy metals and toxins from the body have been frowned upon and discouraged.

 

42. Senior medical doctors have challenged even the vaccines recommended by the Government of India. The BCG vaccine for tuberculosis has been extensively tested in India as long back as 1961 and found to be totally ineffective. The OPV is causing polio and other neurological and intestinal disorders in tens of thousands of Indian children. The Hep-B vaccine introduced recently is not meant for children at all, it is a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease that should be targeted only at promiscuous adults. The tetanus vaccine contains both aluminum and mercury besides the tetanus toxoid. The doctors themselves avoid giving the DPT to their children and relatives as per a survey amongst US health care professionals. The measles vaccine is a vaccine that regularly causes severe adverse effects and the health workers I have interviewed want it out.

 

43. The pediatricians are introducing dubious vaccines in India, which are being opposed by the doctors, politicians, and public in American and European countries. The Rotavirus vaccine, Hib vaccine, HPV vaccine and the various multi virus vaccines being introduced without any kind of testing is only because the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering them want to ensure a good income from them. They care two hoots about medical ethics and the fate of the children who will receive these vaccines. Vaccines containing nano particles and viruses and also plant based genetically modified vaccines are being opposed by honest doctors worldwide.

 

44. Various independent studies, notably the Dutch and the more recent German study, comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated children have found that vaccinated children are prone to asthma, dermatitis, allergies, hyperactivity etc. The death rate amongst vaccinated children is much more than the unvaccinated ones.

 

45. Vaccines, being a mass medical program which is accepted without question, becomes the perfect launching pad for bioterrorism. The powerful countries can spread lethal epidemics by just polluting the vaccines with bio warfare agents. The USA has handed over vaccine research to a bioterrorism research unit called the BARDA which functions under the Pentagon. A warning to this effect has been sounded by the Vice President IAP in a letter to the DGHS.

 

46. Besides "investigating" into the small pox virus, it is reported that a "weapons grade" bird flu vaccine has already been devised by the Pentagon to be used as biowarfare agents.

 

47. Vaccines have also been used to ensure population control. A batch of the tetanus vaccine has been used in many Asian countries to make the female population sterile. This was done by introducing a hormone that by inducing antibodies would abort the foetus when it is formed. In India, Saheli, a NGO fighting for the rights of women filed a PIL against this when the fact surfaced.

 

48. Mercury, a part of vaccines, is known to interfere with the endocrine system and induce sterility in both males and females.

 

49. Through a new Public Health Bill that is being drafted the Government of India is planning to introduce forced vaccinations and threaten anti-vaccination activists with steep fines and jail terms. This is obviously at the instance of foreign (read US) vaccine giants who are shifting base to India reeling at the tremendous opposition to vaccines in US and European countries. The Govt of India is planning a "vaccine park" at Chennai where these vaccine MNCs will set up base. This itself is an act of bioterrorism which ironically the proposed bill seeks to oppose.

 

50. As per the IOM, USA, vaccine research for a probable link between vaccines and autism should not be conducted. The Institute of Medicine in its last report on vaccines and autism in 2004 said that more research on the vaccine question is counterproductive: Finding a susceptibility to this risk in some infants would call into question the universal vaccination strategy that is a bedrock of immunization programs and could lead to widespread rejection of vaccines. The IOM concluded that efforts to find a link between vaccines and autism "must be balanced against the broader benefit of the current vaccine program for all children". What does this add up to? Infants should be sacrificed in order to perpetuate an unscientific procedure?

 

The above points are not exhaustive."......

 

[EJ09]

Nyhetsspeilet kliner til igjen.

[MortenO]

Mx3, jeg spør igjen slik jeg gjorde i en annen tråd:

 

1:Hvis det var opp til deg, ville du stanset all vaksinasjon verden over?

2:Ville flere eller færre blitt syke, fått komplikasjoner, varige skader og dødsfall hvis vaksinering stoppet?

3:Hva ville vært ditt alternativ til preventive tiltak og behandling for smittsomme sykdommer som idag adresseres av vaksiner?

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I og med at du påstår implisitt at du er mer velinformert enn fagpersonell, og spesielt oss, på smittevern og behandling, så forventer jeg igrunn klare svar på disse spørsmålene.

[mamma-x-3]

??? Har du ikke lest noen som helst fra meg? Disse spørsmålene har jeg tatt for meg opptil mange ganger. ???

 

Dette gidder jeg virkelig ikke. Mange av artiklene jeg har lenket her svarer klart og tydelig på dine spørsmål. Jeg har lagt ut flere utdrag fra nettsider som tar for seg spørsmålene dine tidligere. Grundig. Men obs, de er vel ofte fra for "alternative" avsendere til at du har villet lese dem?

 

Foreslår du lager deg en varm kopp kaffe og setter deg til å lese mine lenker bakover. Det er svært mye interessant lesning. Moderat og ekstremt. Nyttig uansett for å få oss til å "våkne i timen". Det er mitt ønske har inne, at flere gjør nettopp det.

 

Om du ennå ikke har fått det med deg: Min holdning er krystallklar! Vaksiner? Nei takk. Global massevaksinering? Nei takk. Forebyggende uten vaksiner? Ja, vi lever langt sunnere uten.

 

 

Preventive tiltak mot smittsomme sykdommer? Vi i Norge er svært heldige som kan ta disse tiltakene for gitt:

 

Vi bør som foreldre fokusere på å styrke barnets immunsystem allerede fra fødselen av:

 

Fullamming i minst seks måneder.

Gode hygieneforhold (Men ikke overdriv. Bakterier er også gode)

Et godt og variert kosthold

Reduser sukker, salt, melkeprodukter (laktose)

Lag mat av gode råvarer, unngå halvfabrikata

Rent vann. Drikk vann i stedet for leskedrikk til hverdags.

Utnytt naturens eget medisinskap (urter/nyttevekster, frukt/ grønnsaker). Skaff deg kunnskap det!

Søk et liv i bevegelse, vær mye ute, hold deg i form

Stress ned! Ta kontroll på tidsklemma

Fokuser på trivsel og løsninger heller enn negativitet og problemer.

Omgi familien med dyr. Barn med katt/hund/kjæledyr har vist seg mer robuste mot allergier.

 

Dette er leveregler vi ikke trenger være uenige om, skulle jeg tro?

La ellers barn være mye ute fra de er små. Det har solid helsegevinst.

Og la barn møtes og smittes. Sykdom er ikke skummelt i seg selv om man ellers er frisk og robust!

 

Og dersom de blir syke, ta oss tid til stell og omsorg og god tid til å bli frisk! - Vi takler sykdommer langt bedre enn vi tror. Helt naturlig.

 

D-vitaminets rolle for imunsystemet er utrolig viktig. Sollys, frisk luft, (moderat mengde selvfølgelig) er helseforebygging i seg selv. :-D

 

Citrusfrukt (C-vitaminer) gir gevinst.

 

Her er mye, mye mer.

Jeg bringer gjerne på banen et par gode linker :-D

 

 

Jeg skjønner ikke hva du prøver her? Du vet utmerket godt hvor jeg står vedr vaksinesaken. At du ennå ikke har sett min holdning og mening om helse, massevaksinering og forebygging mot sykdom/rusting av immunsystem osv sier mye om hvor mye du har lest av mine innlegg her inne...

[EJ09]

Tror du virkelig man blir immun (mot f.eks. polio) av fem om dagen?

[MortenO]

"At du ennå ikke har sett min holdning og mening om helse, massevaksinering og forebygging mot sykdom/rusting av immunsystem osv sier mye om hvor mye du har lest av mine innlegg her inne..."

 

Dine innlegg på dette forumet har en ting til felles: De er fulle av inkonsistens, tullprat, løgn, oppspinn og et virrvarr av linker til totalt useriøse websider. Nyhetsspeilet er allerede nevnt som eksempel.

 

Du har aldri noen gang vist innsikt utover egen fortreffelighet og klarer ikke se annet enn gift, konspirasjon og bivirkninger hver gang ordet "vaksine" blir nevnt. Til tross for at du taler midt imot verdens medisinske fagmiljø og overveldende dokumentasjon på effekt.

Din løsningen på problemet er tilsynelatende å spise grønnsaker og vaske seg, grovt sett.

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Hadde skrevet mye mer, slettet det, skrevet på nytt, redigert osv. Men for å slippe noen flere innlegg med ufin personkarakteristika så stopper jeg like gjerne her. Mn kommer ikke lenger når man skal prate til en fjellvegg. Jeg er så oppgitt over ditt grenseløse tunnelsyn, at jeg er nær tålegrensen for hva et menneske kan takle uten å falle død om på stedet.

[EJ09]

Jeg vil i sammenhengen minne om at mamma-x-3 i dette forumet var (og er) utrolig fornøyd med seg selv da hun meget selvtilfreds kunngjorde at hun ikke forholdt seg til forskning fordi den jo er så kjedelig.

[Samsyn, Camilla og Therese]

og hvor skriver hun at man blir immun mot Polio av å spise 5 om dagen?

Hvorfor ikke heller prøve å komme med noe konstruktivt fremfor totalt meningsløse svar?

[MortenO]

"og hvor skriver hun at man blir immun mot Polio av å spise 5 om dagen?

Hvorfor ikke heller prøve å komme med noe konstruktivt fremfor totalt meningsløse svar?"

 

Hvis du leser innleggene til mx3 på dette forumet så ser du at det er de som en totalt meningsløse. Vi har i måneder forsøkt å imøtekomme med seriøse svar, i alle fall svare med faglig dokumentasjon. Seriøsiteten på ordlyden har dessverre gått over i mye spydigheter da ingenting går inn. Alt preller av siden hun vet bedre enn resten av verden. Så jeg får bare beklage på vegne av nye lesere, men dette forumet er dessverre gjennomsyret av tullball fra ende til annen.

 

EJ09's spørsmål var forøvrig retorisk. Hvsi mx3 fjerner vaksiner fra verden og erstatter det med god hygiene, godt kosthold og D-vitamintilskudd er det absolutt på sin plass å spørre om man blir immun f.eks mot polio av 5 om dagen.

[mamma-x-3]

Nice try, EJ09 :-D

[mamma-x-3]

Deg om det, EJ09 :-D

[ostepop123]

For det første, disse 50 spørsmålene er jo fullstendig useriøse. For det første er det jo ikke en gang spørsmål, men en lang rekke udokumenterte påstander. Men jeg mener, hallooo: "Deaths and permanent disability from vaccines is very common and known by the medical community. They are instructed by the Government to keep quiet and not to associate such cases with vaccines."

 

Mener du dette, mamma-x-3?

 

For det andre. Du må gjerne tro hva du vil om meg eller oss, jeg vil for ordens skyld minne deg på at jeg en rekke ganger har fortalt deg at jeg ikke er helsepersonell (og altså ikke legestudent), men at jeg jobber med medisinsk forskning. MortenO har gjentatte ganger forklart hva han jobber med. Andre kan jeg ikke uttale meg om. Det er kanskje vanskelig for deg å tro, men det er altså mennesker som, uavhengig av hverandre, er opptatt av at ikke nettet skal forpestes med fordummende påstander, og er opptatt av å argumentere mot en slik stri strøm av svada. Jeg synes det er helt på sin plass å stille kritiske spørsmål, å sette seg inn i problemstillingen, og å være kritisk til legemiddelindustrifinansiert forskning (når har noen noensinne referert til slik forskning her inne, mamma-x-3?). Men det er altså forskjell på dét og å skrike "STATEN FORGIFTER OSS".

 

For det tredje. Du har kanskje ikke sagt at forskning er kjedelig, men du har da både signalisert at det er både lite lystbetont og tørt. Noen kan kanskje tolke det til å bety kjedelig. Her: http://www.dinbaby.com/forum/thread/141598681