Drømmemagen Skrevet 24. april 2009 #1 Skrevet 24. april 2009 http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/324/7334/393
Helseinterressert Skrevet 24. april 2009 #2 Skrevet 24. april 2009 Nok en studie som er designet for å feile. Istedet for å se om det er like mye autisma blant uvaksinerte (totalt uvaksinerte) ser man kun på MMR vaksinen. Hmm, lurer på hvorfor? Hvorfor var det kun 3 tilfeller av autister blant Amish folket som har rett til å la seg avstå fra vaksiner når de skulle hatt ca 130 statistisk sett? Disse 3 var imidlertid vaksinerte av ulike grunner... Finnes det en eneste autist blant de tusener, kanskje millioner av uvaksinerte i den vestlige verden?
Drømmemagen Skrevet 24. april 2009 Forfatter #3 Skrevet 24. april 2009 Hvor har du det fra at Amish-folket ikke lar seg vaksinere? Vanskelig å følge med når du ikke oppgir kilder, men antar at det er Dan Olmsteds "bevis" du henviser til? Anser disse som litt mer seriøse (du burde virkelig finne deg andre kilder enn Fritt helsevalg og Whale): http://autism-news-beat.com/?p=29 http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurology/Seizures/2954
Helseinterressert Skrevet 25. april 2009 #4 Skrevet 25. april 2009 Bintang, Hva med denne da? En studie med over 500 uvaksinerte hvor det er mindre astma og allergi blant de uvaksinerte enn hos vaksinerte? : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15805992?dopt=Abstract
Drømmemagen Skrevet 25. april 2009 Forfatter #5 Skrevet 25. april 2009 Endelig en ordentlig referanse; well done Dette er absolutt en interessant artikkel og vel verdt mer forskning. Forfatterne konkluderer med at: "Parents who refuse vaccinations reported less asthma and allergies in their unvaccinated children. Although this relationship was independent of measured confounders, it could be due to differences in other unmeasured lifestyle factors or systematic bias. Further research is needed to verify these results and investigate which exposures are driving the associations between vaccination refusal and allergic disease. The known benefits of vaccination currently outweigh the unproved risk of allergic disease". De påpeker imidlertid at det kan eksistere andre confounders enn det de har tatt høyde for, samt at det kan ha forekommet systematisk bias. De understreker også til slutt at de kjente fordelene med vaksinering er større enn den ubeviste risikoen for allergiske sykdommer. Med andre ord, artikkelen stiller et interessant spørsmål det er verd å følge opp, men jeg, i likhet med artikkelens forfattere, finner ikke på det nåværende tidspunkt noen grunn til å endre mitt standpunkt til vaksiner på basis av dette.
Drømmemagen Skrevet 25. april 2009 Forfatter #6 Skrevet 25. april 2009 Fra samme artikkel som ovenfor: "The prevalence of asthma was 20.3%, 11.8%, and 15% among fully vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and ever-vaccinated children, respectively. Because of the high prevalence of asthma among fully vaccinated children, we hypothesized that NVIC member families with fully vaccinated children might be more likely to respond to the survey if their children had asthma. If true asthma prevalence among fully vaccinated children in the NVIC was 15%, then there could be a response bias as high as 30%. Differential misclassification was also possible because vaccine-refusing families were more likely to use alternative health care and therefore might not receive diagnoses. Similarly, families that vaccinate despite concerns might be less tolerant of symptoms and more likely to seek diagnosis. For example, the children of vaccine refusers who reported current wheezing were 2.6 times less likely than wheezing vaccinated children to report an asthma diagnosis."
Drømmemagen Skrevet 25. april 2009 Forfatter #7 Skrevet 25. april 2009 Mer fra samme artikkel: "The analyses adjusted for measured confounders or estimates of bias but not both. Complete adjustment for unmeasured confounders could, potentially, eliminate the observed associations between vaccines and self-reported allergic disease." Men, det er verdt å merke seg: "Despite these concerns, there are several reasons not to dismiss completely all study findings." Ytterligere forskning burde derfor gjennomføres. Fra artikkelens konklusjon: "Although 280 children and youths died from asthma in 2001,26 before vaccination, 11,000 children died and 50,000 children were seriously affected by diseases like measles, whooping cough, diphtheria, and polio every year in the United States.27 If vaccination rates decrease, these diseases will return; none of the vaccinepreventable diseases are eradicated. For parents of children at high risk for asthma, these data do not indicate that refusing vaccines will decrease their child’s risk of disease. Other parents should remember that vaccines prevent serious and deadly diseases, and the known benefits of vaccination clearly outweigh this hypothetical risk. These data are limited by potential biases inherent in the population studied, and findings need to be replicated in a more representative group before inferences can be drawn. Further studies should include investigating the variety of alternative health behaviors in this population and examine the safety of current vaccine schedules and adjuvants. Basic laboratory research into the effect of vaccination on the developing immune system could improve our understanding of both vaccine immunology and asthma cause. In summary, this study suggests that low-risk children in families that refuse vaccination are less likely to report asthma and other allergic symptoms. Universal vaccination remains fundamental to the protection of individual and public health. Policy implications must await additional studies that more clearly define the relevant health behaviors and identify the biologic mechanisms by which these behaviors affect the development of allergic diseases."
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